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	<title>Comments on: BBFC great says BBFC boss</title>
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	<description>Observations on games by Robin Clarke</description>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://citystate.co.uk/archives/bbfc-great-says-bbfc-boss/comment-page-1/#comment-3443</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Byron Report makes a good case for the need for more parental awareness of ratings, but it doesn&#039;t offer a solid argument for the BBFC rating 12+ games.

Games which currently warrant a PEGI 12+ rating feature content that is in line with other media aimed at that age group which doesn&#039;t carry statutory ratings (e.g. books, comics, board games, etc.). Content which would warrant a BBFC 12 or 12A rating in film (e.g. the scenes of sadistic violence in The Dark Knight) routinely get a PEGI 16+ and/or BBFC 15 or 18 in games.

It comes back to a problem that is present throughout the report (and the consultation questions beforehand) - the presumption that age-inappropriate content poses a quantifiable  &#039;risk&#039; to children. Making a generalised case for &#039;risk&#039; is fairly shaky for 15 and 18 rated media (with the exception of extreme edge cases), but becomes practically meaningless at the 12 and below bracket.

The idea of a child of any age being &#039;harmed&#039; by a game like Guitar Hero III or Zelda:TP (to pick two fairly recent 12+ ratings), and the sale of such a game resulting in a criminal prosecution being useful or helpful to the public is absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Byron Report makes a good case for the need for more parental awareness of ratings, but it doesn&#8217;t offer a solid argument for the BBFC rating 12+ games.</p>
<p>Games which currently warrant a PEGI 12+ rating feature content that is in line with other media aimed at that age group which doesn&#8217;t carry statutory ratings (e.g. books, comics, board games, etc.). Content which would warrant a BBFC 12 or 12A rating in film (e.g. the scenes of sadistic violence in The Dark Knight) routinely get a PEGI 16+ and/or BBFC 15 or 18 in games.</p>
<p>It comes back to a problem that is present throughout the report (and the consultation questions beforehand) &#8211; the presumption that age-inappropriate content poses a quantifiable  &#8216;risk&#8217; to children. Making a generalised case for &#8216;risk&#8217; is fairly shaky for 15 and 18 rated media (with the exception of extreme edge cases), but becomes practically meaningless at the 12 and below bracket.</p>
<p>The idea of a child of any age being &#8216;harmed&#8217; by a game like Guitar Hero III or Zelda:TP (to pick two fairly recent 12+ ratings), and the sale of such a game resulting in a criminal prosecution being useful or helpful to the public is absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re making a bit of a straw man of the argument for BBFC ratings here: Cooke certainly made a blunder by going all-defensive, but it doesn&#039;t invalidate the arguments set out in the original report.

There are four-and-a-bit pages of reasoning in there, from section 7.30 on page 167 through to 7.50 on 172. It makes for far more interesting discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re making a bit of a straw man of the argument for BBFC ratings here: Cooke certainly made a blunder by going all-defensive, but it doesn&#8217;t invalidate the arguments set out in the original report.</p>
<p>There are four-and-a-bit pages of reasoning in there, from section 7.30 on page 167 through to 7.50 on 172. It makes for far more interesting discussion.</p>
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